Huskers and Big 10 Are No Strangers to Change

The conventional wisdom has Nebraska going to the Big 10 with Missouri and/or Kansas, so the band may not have to break up after all.  But if it’s only one school that the Big 10 takes to get them to a playoff game, it’s going to be our precious Bugeaters. 

Missouri can posture all they want, but when their poor fan support causes them to slip to toilet bowl status two years running, that doesn’t instill confidence in a program expected to draw viewership and expand the base of a cable channel.

Frankly, this will be a good change for Nebraska.  Now we can get back to focusing on football, and not on what new shady backroom deal is coming out of Austin.

I am just glad that Tom Osborne is in the board room helping guide the way on this decision.  Tom is again being called upon to lead Nebraska athletics to the promised land.  He made a great decision to get Bo hear and I trust him to make the right decision for Nebraska on this one, both in terms of revenue and tradition. 

“Matt”, please expand and explain about these “shady deals” coming out of Austin…you sound like one of those conspiracy people (birthers and those that believe 911 was a Government job), ‘it’s always Texas’ fault cry babies from Nebraska…and, frankly I hope Nebraska goes somewhere and Take Missouri and Colorado under each army…your whining gets a little old after a while…Nebraska, other than football (in just one year only) is a drag on the Big 12.  One decent year in football out of the last umpteen years and you think you are back…living off your reputation from several decades back and constantly whining.  That is not a way to be a good member in a conference and win friends.

Texas will be departing from the BIG 12 soon enough and good riddance to a whole bunch of losers…almost none of the Old Big 8 schools are able to pull their own weight other than the two Oklahoma Schools.  The Big 12 will not survive any realignment and Texas has first choice of any conference they want, but I hope its far away from the former Big 8 losers…forming the Big 12 was a bad idea…All I hear from NU, MU, etc is a bunch of whining, jealous fans blaming Texas for everything that’s gone wrong.  Well, who’s to blame for everything that’s gone right?  Texas is the correct answer.  So, without Texas support, dedication to sports the Big 12 would be just a third rate conference and Texas deserves better than having to associate with the Nebraskas/Missouris/Colorados of the world.

Steer Power—you obviously don’t remember the early years of the Big XII (why would you—it isn’t exactly convenient for your ‘argument’) when Nebraska, K-State, and Colorado carried the conference. 

Texas deserves nothing more than to be the victim of its own success by the methods it chooses to employ to obtain it.  The Big XII Title game and subsequent NC game is an excellent case-in-point for this—Texas had to cheat to win, using the UT-alum head of referees for the Big XII to make a blatantly bad call that went against what had happened the whole game.  Texas went on to be a victim of that ‘success’ by being undressed by Alabama on national television. 

Of course, we could get into the other suspicious activity that only happened in the Big XII title game (not suspending a player that commits a chop block twice against the same opposing player, using NFL rules for pass interference that aren’t in the NCAA book, incorrect horse collar penalties), but let’s look at Texas’ history.  Texas has blatantly cheated to try and win in the past, helped killed off the SWC, and cried like a little b**** until it got its way when the Big XII was formed.  That included moving the B-Ball tourney out of KC, moving the Big XII offices out of KC to the UT extension office in Irving, Prop 42, killing the OU/NU tilt, so on and so forth.

But the best way to illustrate the favoritism Texas receives in the Big XII is by way of juxtaposition:

-Would Nebraska have received a phantom second were they in Texas’ position?

-Would Nebraska have been able to have a O-Lineman chop block the same D-Lineman twice w/o ejection?

-Would Nebraska be allowed to have one of its alum installed as the head of referees for the Big XII?

-Would Nebraska be allowed to have a Lincoln business owner be head referee in a game against a Texas school (reference to T. Tech game, where head referee is a Lubbock businessman)?

To help you out Steer (as it looks as though you were educated in Texas), no, no, no, and no. 

And therein lies the problem—Texas and Nebraska operate from two different ethics sets:  Nebraska chooses to win fairly and honorably, and Texas views ethics as something that gets in the way of winning and/or profit.

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Iowa Hawkeye Alum—the Big 10 won’t invite Texas or aTm any time soon.  aTm is not baggage that the Big 10 wishes to deal with. 

Also, Texas will soon be two for two in killing conferences—would you really want to invite that Typhoid Mary into your conference?  Only the SEC has the ability to reign in the antics in Austin…which is exactly why Texas has rejected their overtures in the past. 

Honestly, I do hope that when Nebraska gets the Big 10 invite (question of when and not if, really), they make the Iowa/Nebraska tilt a Turkey Day affair.  That would be a good rivalry to start up, and it has the potential to be a respectful affair, not unlike what the NU/OU game was before the Big XII (read: UT and OU) killed it.

I see, the refs made a ruling, and I guess someone from the bench rushed out with a ‘payoff’ to get the right decision?  I’m wondering how anyone could possibly come to the conclusion that there was some funny business there.

And, I guess if you are the most successfull, the largest, the biggest contributor in a conference you are suppose to let the ‘lessor’ (read that Nebraska) make the big decisions that affect you?  Before Texas, Nebraska/Oklahoma ran roughshot over the Big 8, but now the shoes on the other foot, Nebraska doesn’t like it…well how do you think, the Kansas Schools/Iowa etc felt back when you were the big guys?

Anyway, an unscientific poll in a local paper asking where the fans want to go and why… 60% said the Big 10, 30% said the Pac 10, and 10% said the SEC.  And, the question why?  The answers in order of favorability 1)  Revenue 2) Academics 3) To get away from the whiners like Nebraska/Missouri/Colorado

I promise you, Texas only needs to make a single affirmative phone call this afternoon to the Commissioner of the BIG 10 and The Big 10 Expansion would be completed…Nebraska/Missouri are only mentioned as boobie prizes…not the first choice, second, third choice…

Face it, Nebraska brings very little more to the table than tradition/history, largely earned before 2000…Nebraska academics are second rate (giving NU the benefit of the doubt here), there’s only about 3 people in the state with cable TV, there’s high schools in Texas with bigger endowments, the athletic department is really pathetic…I’m wondering why NU would even be considered by the BT, NU would obviously be a drag on the conference and certainly not deserving of a full, equal share of the revenue.

And, you know what people that make up stories, scenarios, and accuse people of misdeeds without proof, don’t you?  Down here, we call them damn liars?  Not sure what they are called in Nebraska…I guess you all just call them friends and neighbors.

“Down here, we call them damn liars?”

No, I believe you call them Longhorn fans, since you were asking the question.

And I would recommend saving some of that unfounded, unchecked hubris for the aftermath of this whole expansion scenario when Texas will find the shoe on the other foot. 

What’s amusing in your little verbal pirouette is that you choose to a) not answer any of the questions proposed (honestly or otherwise, though we all know honesty isn’t an operational component for your ilk), and b) you choose to ignore the facts of this whole scenario to the peril of your ‘argument’. 

Since I trust Forbes over the ramblings of an ignorant ‘whorn, I’ll defer to them when they say Nebraska has the fourth most-profitable college football program in the nation.  Sure, we’re behind Penn State, Notre Dame, and the ill-gotten gains of Austin, but when you parse it out on a per-capita basis, Nebraska easily outclasses Austin with 1/10th of the population. 

Nebraska handily, save for one school, has the best average television ratings of any school mentioned for Big 10 expansion, including Notre Dame, with Nebraska averaging a 3.5.  The only school that comes close is Pitt with a 3.2—the rest are one full point or more behind Nebraska.  High ratings sell advertising, which fuels 60% of the profit for the Big 10 Network (not subscriber rates, which is 40%). 

And face it, Texas brings very little to the table other than a half-assed National Championship from 2005 won by a single player and not much else.  Nebraska is the team that helps set ratings records with ABC/ESPN for Saturday night games (like the Big XII Title game), not Texas (who already had prior Saturday night appearances). 

And Texas could make that aforementioned affirmative call to the Big 10, but as long as they have Caller ID, they won’t pick up.  They’ll just peg your school as the desperate playboy stalker that just can’t take ‘no’ for an answer, as there’s no way in their right mind that the Big 10 will take Texas, their baggage, or their penchant for killing conferences.

Of course, you’re more than welcome to keep on dreaming about Texas’ place in expansion talks and that Texas can survive without Nebraska.  Just make sure Ricky and Cedric stop by to restock your weed supply before said dreaming occurs.

Boys,

Even here in the “cyber world” of the internet, we eventually have to face reality.  The fact of the matter is that Texas is the prettiest girl available.  Why?  (1) Big $s. They have a huge, rabid, fan base and would provide the big TV markets of Dallas, Houston and San Antonio.  (2) Academics and research are very strong (AAU school with a $16 B endowment (16x the size of UN) and that matters to the B10.  (3) Longhorn brand is national in football, baseball and b-ball.  I don’t like that facts either, but they are the facts.  Even if aTm has to be in the deal (by the way aTm is a major research university in it’s own right) the B10 and any other conference is interested in Texas and aTm.

So Texas is the drivers seat.  They can join whatever conference they want.  SEC is probably out based on academics.  Also the Longhorns are not stupid….they don’t want to play ‘Bama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tenn, Auburn every year and never get to a bowl game.  Pac 10 is an interesting choice for Texas, and may be a good fit, but the time zone differences may be a challenge.  And it appears to me that Texas does not what to play on equal ground with outer conference members so, Pac 10 may be out. 

Thus it looks like Texas will either (A) go independent.  This isn’t working for Notre Dame but everyone has the right to try.  Or (B) start a new conference which the Texas president has eluded to as a possibility.  When the Big XII implodes and Colorado, Nebraska and Missouri bolt, Texas can ask a plethora of schools to join the “Texas Conference.”  Utah, TCU, New Mexico, SMU will provide lots of easy “Ws” for the Big T. 

The second prettiest girl out there is Notre Dame.  (too bad, but true).  Again they have a national brand with lots of TV views on the east coast, and strong academics.  But, ND is not the school of the future, they’re the school of the past.  Demographics are against ND having big time success again.  Let’s hope the B10 is smart and grabs Nebraska – a stable, mid-western school with national appeal.  How is the UN wresting team?

SteerPower sounds like he’s crying as writes in and has the nerve to call us whiners. People who sit idly by while someone screws them over leave an open invitation for it to happen again. Same goes for programs. Everything UT has done in the conference has been for their posturing and gain so if UT fans wanna drop by and call us whiners who cares? No reason for NU to even look back when the Big 10 calls.

As for revenue I do beleive aside from high TV ratings that the B10 gets money for subscribers in the states that schools reside in. While NE may not have a huge population I bet their are a good deal of alumni and fans in the Big 10 states. Especially if Missouri and Kansas come along.

It’s strange that “Iowa Hawkeye Fan” from another conference seems to have a much more fact based argument and appears to have a much more clear picture of the situation than any of the Husker (what the heck is a husker anyway? Does that refer to shucking corn or something?) fans.

I didn’t realize that the Husker fans were such whiners, sore losers, and vicious until all this expansion came up…I’ve always been told that the Husker fans were probably the best and most sporting fans of anyone…but, these blogs have sure opened my eyes to the true nature of Huskers.

As for playing in the SEC, who in their right mind would want to play 3 or 4 National Championship Calibre teams every year?  Although it wouldn’t be desirable, I have no doubt that The Longhorns could more than hold their own with anyone in the SEC.  Other than the Academic part, the SEC is a more geographically suitable place to go. 

Regardless of where Nebraska ends up, they will know ‘deep in their heart’ they were not the first, second, or even third choice of their new conference. 

And, envy does always seem to bring out the worst in a fan (Husker, wink! wink!).

Bet dear old Nebraska High wishes they had generated $138,000,000 in their athletic Dept. last year.  I’ll also bet they wish they were ranked the 49th Best University in the USA (#75 World Wide).  I’ll also bet dear old Nebraska wished they had a 102,000 seat stadium that has sold out for 5 straight years and counting.  Also, I’ll bet dear old NU wishes they had 49 National Championships in all sports.  And, dear NU a $16,000,000,000 endowment is nothing to sneeze at.  Envy is apparent when dear old NU realized that old Longhorn U had $538,000,000 in research funds last year.  And, even as I type, Dear old Texas has at least 3 or 4 teams ranked in the top 10 nationally.  Hey Huskers, how many National Championships have you won this year…dear old Longhorn U has one already and counting.  And, I’m sure the 500,000 plus active alumni of Old UT would pay whatever the cable fee is to watch them.  And, I’m positive that at least 75% of the 24,000,000 Texans have more than just a little active interest in the Longhorns.  Also, Husker envyiers have you forgotten the 400 plus high school football players ‘each and every year’ that sign scholarships to Division schools that come from Longhorn territory…the ones the Longhorns don’t pick wish they had been one of the lucky ones being courted by Texas.

So, Little Husker buddies as you ride off into the sunset realizing what a really, really, small and insignificant quaint little cold-weather community school you are, Farewell, farewell, and good luck on your quest to become more relevant in a world that hardly even knows you are there.

SteerPower, UT fans that I am surrounded with here in Austin try to separate themselves from UT fans like you - who give the Longhorn FanBase such a sour-grapes stigma. You are the reason that the collective college football nation thinks UT fans are a bunch of whiners.  I will assure you that most UT fans are not, and that many UT fans hold Nebraska very highly. Unfortunately, the face of the UT fanbase gets represented by people like yourself who are rejected and have nothing better to do than going to a Husker board and making an a** out of themselves. 

Chicago (Big X) never looses money. They know what their doing and if they deem Nebraska a sure bet (I think they are) then Nebraska will get the invite. I don’t think UT or ND will get a formal invite. Sure there will be back channel talks but nothing formal. I can only fantasize about what any negotiations between Chicago and UT would be like. Nope, UT isn’t going anywhere.

Everyone will kick and scream when the Big X expands but they can’t really do much about it. They will blow a lot of smoke about expanding their respective conferences but in the end they won’t be able to figure out how to do it. None of the other conferences have the Big X’s business model. Until they have something like it or an alternative it just won’t make sense. UT and the Big XII will continue to exist but it will be essentially a Texas based conference with UT calling the shots. I figure thats the way they would want it anyway.

As for Missou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Cuse going to the Big X. I think it’s a dynamite proposition and I think every one of the candidate schools would fit in nicely and quickly become Big X staples for decades to come.  Oh, and they will all make a heck of a lot of money doing it.

“HuskerInAustin”...I’m not a Texas fan…I am alumni of one of the old SWC Schools that hates Texas cause of the dry screwing they gave to my school in the 90’s…I think it’s a hoot to put the Husker fans ‘in their place’ as insignificant entries in the world of Universities.  They are living off past glory, and don’t know it…it’s only that past glory that might…I said might get them into a decent conference if the Big XII folds.

And, dear “HuskerInAustin” one of the worst, I said WORST fans I have ever seen in my life was a longhorn fan…got red in the face, started cussing and had to be restrained at a game.

Sorry, but Nebraska will never know what a good screwing is until they have it put to them by Longhorns…

I personally think college sports should be greatly downplayed and Universities get back to what they were intended to do…educate stupid teenagers.

“HuskerInAustin”...of all the complaints the whining, complaining Huskers have not made that they should have…Longhorn fans are about as arrogant as they come.  After moving to Austin 12 years ago from Houston, I have never been to Memorial Stadium…if I could have gotten tickets to the Ohio State Game back in 2006, I believe I would have gone cause I figured a very young, inexperience,green Cold McCoy would lose and I wanted to be on hand to see the “pain”!

SteerPower isn’t a Longhorn fan but complains that NU fans are whiners for trying not to get screwed again by Texas? then claims to be a fan of an old SWC school that got screwed but doesn’t say which one?(sounds like complaining tsk tsk!) so what awesome SWC school are you alumni of? (I used your grammar for max effect) I’m sure NU is somewhat more significant in the world of universities than your school unless you really are a Texas grad just trying to give yourself non bias cred (I hope you aren’t for UT’s sake).

What the heck is a longhorn anyway? Does that refer to the size or length of the horn or something? Yes…yes it does.

Oh well…don’t feed the trolls I guess.

Why dont we all agree that we all are in fact quite sad considering we fight via type on a board?  Anyone who doesn’t see this Texas sized squable as anything less than childish is a fool.

SteerPower, You’ve been busy. A little googling with “SteerPower” reveals that that you’ve been on message boards from the SEC, ACC, and Big10, and they have run you off their boards as well. I wish your UT team luck this year in Lincoln.  GBR

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2010/04/texas-nearly-joined-sec-during-last-round-of-expansion-could-it-happen-now.html

http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2010/04/23/would-the-sec-look-to-the-acc-in-expansion/comment-page-2/

http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2010/02/maybe_theres_no_texas_two-step.html

and many more…

“NOLA_SKER”...a steer is a bull without balls…now you know.  And, the school that I went to is of no consequence since I have made no claims about it…although, they have about 20 to 30 national championships in all sports which is also probably more than NU has.

I think being homeless after a good length of time in a major conference and being left homeless without a warning is not quite in the same category as complaining about an alleged bad officials calls and someone weilding more power in the conference, on and on and on and on whining, whining, whining.  Being left homeless meant all athletic programs all of a sudden almost disappeared, it is much much more difficult to recruit players and without being able to recruit the better football/basketball/baseball/etc etc players your athletic department starts to dry up on the vine which means also that the fan base starts to evaporate along with contributions to the athletic department and then the facilities start to deteriorate because of a lack of money from fan attendance tickets/donations/tv revenue.  Yes, I believe being left behind is a little bit more serious than aa alledged bad referee call someone from the loosing team things was wrong.

“Tom” having a little better football team this year than last year’s team, does not mean NU is headed toward the top…You have a very small tunnel vision of ‘what the top is’....go back and read my statement about 10 items back describing Texas…that’s is the top and NU will never get to the top.

Here is what the top looks like:

Texas:

Academics:  Ranked #49 USa; #75 World

Endowment:  $16,000,000,000

Last year’s athletic earnings:  $136,000,000

Research Funds last year:  $536,000,000

Football Stadium: 102000 seats..sold out for a long time

National Championships:  49 in all sports

Athletic Department:  Currently ranked in top 25 in several sports

Recruiting:  400 Plus high school kids in Texas sign Division I Football Scholarships every year

Alumni:  500,000 Plus active

Potential TV Audience:  24,000,000 and growing

NU may rebuild its football program, but it will never be at the top…Sorry, but someone had to break the news!

Wow, SteerPower.  We should meet up and you could give me more facts about the university of texas and i could tell you what a vagina feels like.

“HuskerG” if NU started now and tried as hard as they could, they’d never get to the top. 

And, I doubt you know what a vagina feels like!

SteerPower Your school is of consequence as you’ve made claims regarding other schools on a message board for a school. Since this will never end and trying to make sense of your goals or intentions is the definition of trivial andor insane I’ll leave you to your opinions. I have stated mine but just to reiterate I hope NU leaves on the basis that as you stated Texas leaves other teams out in the cold for their gain and NU would be foolish to caught with their pants down. Might as well get while the gettins good as we say in Nebraska. You got that expression in Texas?

As for attaining Texas standards joining the Big 10 may very well push NU in that direction (notice I said in that direction) and who is to fault a school for aspiring to be better. I truly would hate to see the yearly Mizzou game go. I think over time if their team continues to make noise that rivalry could only get better and maybe someday fill some of the void left by the OU game.

Ok I have a question.  All universities schedule their football games years in advance right?  I am not sure how far, but my best guess is four years in advance.  So the entire Big 12 is scheduled for a couple of more years, maybe till 2014.

Just assume the Big 10 expands, which nobody is 100% sure it will happen.  Not to mention the fact nobody knows who will get the invite.

This expansion will not affect Nebraska or any of the Big 12 till 2014.  So if that is true it means nothing changes till 2014.  Nebraska and the rest of the Big 12 will just be business as usual.  Am I correct on that?

Also, on a side note I have been almost a daily visitor to the Big Red Network since September 2009, and I have never seen this amount of activity on these boards before.  Speculating is fun isn’t.

I liked the article Tom.  Keep up the good work guys.

This is hilarious!

Incidently, Nebraska was an independant, from ‘18-‘20.

Much gas, not even much sooty smoke so far, with this Big 10 thing. I’d guess maybe their decision makers are searching out alternative proposals, before negotiations begin with our Corn. Maybe the Big 10’s still taking applications, or youtube style video auditions, like with the “Jersey Shore.”

Mid to late summer seems to be when things will break public, or not, with Nebraska.

At the least, Nebraska’d better emerge from this with dignity intact, steaming forward.

Also, “emotional hermaphrodite” characterizes someone cracking on a team, on one of the team’s (many) fansites, while not giving up who (he?) roots for. This breaks new ground, in disingenuousness…

SteerPower:  You spew out all this information about a team and program with which you didn’t attend and claim no allegiance…gee, obsess much?  According to your assessment, Texas should be number one in everything, all the time right?  What I don’t understand is why Texas isn’t independent…I mean, if they are the conference and the other 11 teams are just holding them back.  Let’s not forget, Texas joined the Big 8, not the other way around.

I’m just glad Tom Osborne is in charge right now.  If there is anyone who has my utmost confidence in to make the right decision, it’s him.  The guy knows the history and tradition better than anyone, and will do what’s best for Nebraska.  We are truly fortunate he came back when he did!

PS - Is it October 16th yet?

I am not really picking a side in this debate, I like the Big XII and the Big Ten. 

But I do live in Iowa.  I have for most of my life.  I did live in Omaha and Lincoln too. My parents are from Lincoln. 

I was born and raised to say Go Big Red.  I think I was lucky in the fact I got to see many home games for Tom Osborne’s best years in the 90s.  My grandfather worked at NU.

Living in Iowa most of my life, I have watched the Big Ten TV channel grow into what is now.  I get really upset I am only a two and half hour drive from Lincoln and I can’t get most Husker games on TV unless I get PPV. 

The Big XII is pathetic compared to the Big Ten for TV.  I can watch any Big Ten game I want in Des Moines, Iowa. 

Nebraska is one of the most valuable football programs in the nation.  Put a NU helmet next to your *insert your favorite school here* and put it on ESPN and people pay attention, at least right now.

Since I am biased and love the huskers I will show some facts (Steerpower likes facts….) NU is the fourth most valuable football program in our nation. 

#1 Notre Dame

#2 Penn State

#3 Texas

#4 Nebraska

Steerpower, did you see how I agree with you? Texas has more money, they have much more. In Iowa we call this a back handed compliment.

I don’t know if any debate and speculating means much. 

If the Big Ten invites Nebraska, I mostly would just like the fact I can see my favorite team on TV much more.  Then again I live in Hawkeye and Cyclone country.  GO CLYCONES!  (I am a ISU alumni)

I feel its fun to talk about the future of both football conferences, yet really none of us have any say.  Its just fun to talk about.

QUEER STEER POWER, YOU’RE BUSTED!

Your “arrogance” is hanging out! You just profiled me and you know absolutely nothing about me…Here’s a clue: Black, PHD Economics Princeton, 35 YO living in Washington DC…never owned a pair of boots in my life, never owned a pair of “coveralls” (that’s what they are called in Texas, never chewed tobacco snorted coke, shot heroin and do not even drink….so that would make you a profiling, racist,pretentious, arrogant Northern Pig! Hope I didn’t misspell anything!

Reply Posted by: SteerPower | Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM

SteerPower May 06 10

“HuskerInAustin”...I’m not a Texas fan…I am alumni of one of the old SWC Schools that hates Texas cause of the dry screwing they gave to my school in the 90’s…

SteerPower May 06 10

And, you know what people that make up stories, scenarios, and accuse people of misdeeds without proof, don’t you? Down here, we call them damn liars? Not sure what they are called in Nebraska…I guess you all just call them friends and neighbors.

LOOK FAMILIAR?

i guess being a steer leaves some “full of bull”...

Your “arrogance” is hanging out! You just profiled me and you know absolutely nothing about me…Here’s a clue: Black, PHD Economics Princeton, 35 YO living in Washington DC…never owned a pair of boots in my life, never owned a pair of “coveralls” (that’s what they are called in Texas, never chewed tobacco snorted coke, shot heroin and do not even drink….so that would make you a profiling, racist,pretentious, arrogant Northern Pig! Hope I didn’t misspell anything!

Reply Posted by: SteerPower | Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM

SteerPower May 06 10

“HuskerInAustin”...I’m not a Texas fan…I am alumni of one of the old SWC Schools that hates Texas cause of the dry screwing they gave to my school in the 90’s…

SteerPower May 06 10

And, you know what people that make up stories, scenarios, and accuse people of misdeeds without proof, don’t you? Down here, we call them damn liars? Not sure what they are called in Nebraska…I guess you all just call them friends and neighbors.

LOOK FAMILIAR? do i need to dig deeper?

I think that Stevepower is one of those individuals from Austin here a little over a year ago that drove past this Military Convoy, you know with Army vehicles in it, and had to flip off all the soldiers in the convoy since our military vehicles cann’t fly up the Inter-state as fast as he wanted too.  As many people who flipped us off that day, I thought I had traveled back in time and was in California.  Spent 5 years at Hood, and couldn’t wait to get outta that minor he!!.  The only he!! worse was the two trips to Iraq.  I will be blunt, my wife grew up in Tx, I was married in Odessa, when we got to Tx we bought a house, thankfully in a neighborhood that had 5 cops in it.  My wife doesn’t want to go back, granted right now there’s not alot of work here in Western Ne, but better to live someplace nice than live with people who hate the fact that you’ve stood on the line to protect thier freedoms.  My wife also had this happen when she was in a Convoy as well, she was mad enough she swore off her Horns hat she has and put an upside down pair on her truck.  Now there are really nicepeople & @$$holes everywhere, but Tx deff got more than thier quotta of the latter.  Now getting back to football now that I’ve partially discussed Tx.  The Big 12 should go into the Exspation business with the Big 10.  We can grab a pair of schools from the old SWC, and a pair from the WAC.  The Pac 10 can grab up the rest of the WAC.  SEC grabs from the ACC.  The schools Miami, FSU, Gtech, maybe West V geographically make sense, as well as being schools with notarity.  TCU, SMU, Boise St & Colorado St, or Wyoming for the Big 12.  This would be depending if Missery Bolts.  I can honestly say that during Non-Conf play I root for all the Big 12 Teams to win, since this just makes our conference stronger, I have favorites yes.  Oh yeah, Stevie, how many undeafeted Teams were there back in 1970,....., only one and it wasn’t Ohio or UT, it was NU.  I am not a fortune teller but if NU can find thier Offensive side this year and we have somewhere near the same kind of “D” this year the Nation will know that we will compete with whoever we play.  I have Oct 16th circled on my calender, do you?  UT had a good team last year, most likely would beat Bama with Colt, and we took you past the wire( if they reviewed the time for the pass there, they should do it for evey play, human error or not, make it right every play).  I would like NU to play OU every year, no matter the aliangment to the South half, that’s a RIVALRY GAME for NU.  OU has respect for NU, same as NU for OU.  AS well as the fan bases for the most part being able to get along.  There’s a difference between a “Hostile Environment to play” and being hostile, the thing is, is that Ut is headed down the road of just being hostile like CU, towards NU.  Texas might think that they are big enough to push the rest of the Conference around, but when the 4 schools from the old SWC joined the Big 8/12, they were squandering, they needed help in a big way.  We created a new Conference, with some new traditions.  The truth to be told, UT, T A&M, T Tech and Baylor, right now need the rest of the Conference just as much the rest of the Conference needs them.  It’s a mutual self fullfilling cycle, to be the best we need to play the best, and last year the Big 12 was 2nd, if Missery and UT had won thier bowl games I think we coulda argued the Big 12 was the best, but it’s history. so let’s add to our diversity and grow again, become the BIG 16, might need to come up with a better name, I’m just a poor Old Soldier, I’ll leave the naming for someone who makes 6 or more figures a year.

just doing a little reading and found this interesting. all quotes from STEERPOWER:

Your “arrogance” is hanging out! You just profiled me and you know absolutely nothing about me…Here’s a clue: Black, PHD Economics Princeton, 35 YO living in Washington DC…never owned a pair of boots in my life, never owned a pair of “coveralls” (that’s what they are called in Texas, never chewed tobacco snorted coke, shot heroin and do not even drink….so that would make you a profiling, racist,pretentious, arrogant Northern Pig! Hope I didn’t misspell anything!

Reply Posted by: SteerPower | Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM

SteerPower May 06 10

“HuskerInAustin”...I’m not a Texas fan…I am alumni of one of the old SWC Schools that hates Texas cause of the dry screwing they gave to my school in the 90’s…

SteerPower May 06 10

And, you know what people that make up stories, scenarios, and accuse people of misdeeds without proof, don’t you? Down here, we call them damn liars? Not sure what they are called in Nebraska…I guess you all just call them friends and neighbors.

LOOK FAMILIAR? does being a steer leave you “full of bull”?

Qeer..uhh I mean STEERPOWER

You are wrong on just about everyting you have said…my guess is that you are very young….if not…probably just very stupid ..or both….

On other sports besides football….Nebraska leads the conference and is among the top in he county.. in all-sports revenue…check your facts.  last time I checked Nebraska has 5 National Championships and Texas ...well you know that answer .....in the last 20 years Nebraska has 3 National championships and Texas 1 ....prior to that it had been a loooooong time since Texas’ last title ....

I have lived in Texas and there is great group of people down there ...very knowledgeable…unlike yourself…too bad they have you in that state…...

an regarding boosters and money for your program….just 1 of our Boosters (Warren Buffet)....has more money by himself ...than the entire state of Texas…..so just calm down chump…you will learn soon enough

    I just wanted to join into this wonderful fact filled discussion.  First off, I am as big of a Husker fan as there is, I dislike the Longhorns, but for the sake of the argument here, I will put that aside.  SteerPower, thanks for all the facts, you know alot of us hillbilly’s up here in Nebraska didn’t know these.  Since we only have 3 people in the state that have cable tv, I am pretty sure no one has the internet so we cant look these kinds of things up.  They are very important “facts”, but in comparison I would like to see how NU ranks along side of these stats, if you would have put down UT’s rankings, then NU’s it would have been a better “fact sheet”.  Just sayin.

  Mase brings up a good point also, if UT is such a power house why dont they go Independant, at least that way they dont “get brought down” by the rest of the conference, and they wouldn’t have to face 4 NC caliber teams every year.  I would hate to see them actually have a tough schedule.  I am wondering what 4 NC caliber teams you are talking about though? 

  I am not big on wanting NU to join the Big X but no matter what us fans want, the University is gonna do what is best for the school.  I have always enjoyed going to games in Lawrence, and Manhattan.  I doubt that I will make the drive to The Horseshoe, or the BigHouse.  Tony, you talk about the Big 10 network, I would hope that it would be available to us out here in Nebraska.  I have never liked the fact that NU has so many PPV games, but I have always bought them if I couldn’t make it to the game. 

  Well, now to sit here and wait for you to tear this apart with your infinite wisdom.  you better hurry though, cause my hacked internet access my be gone before long.

“Keep it clean and cordial

Pretend you’re a guest in our house. Discuss. Debate. Disagree. That’s all good. Just don’t cuss (much) or take personal pot-shots. If you do, we probably won’t invite you back”

I went to Texas and I live in Austin.

If this realignment were simply about football I would think that it would be foolish for Nebraska to leave.  They are about to go on a dominant run of North division crowns and have the opportunity to play Texas/Oklahoma for outright conference championships and BCS games.

But we all know that this isn’t just about gridiron dominance; it is about money.  Anybody that joins the Big 10 is going to get a $15 million bump in pay.  That is hard to ignore. The Big 10 is prestigious but has grown stale the past few years.  This expansion is a necessary shot in the arm.  I don’t begrudge anybody from accepting an invitation to join.

I will miss playing Nebraska.  I really like the direction the team is heading in and I have a great respect for the knowledgeable fans that always travel so well.

Hook’em

Nuge

I read just a few posts and Steerpower is a good example why 99% of non-Texas fans cannot stand Texas and their arrogance.  It starts at the top for them….” we are the Jones’ ” 

Texas is kind of like Miami as far as like-ability. 

Funny, but Texas is really not that far removed from a 66-3 loss to UCLA.  Oh yeah, that was when they could not even come close to filling their stadium.  Fair weather fans showed their true colors.

XMK2CATX1

I do NOT mean to offend you.  Please learn to make paragraphs.  You are writing stuff worth to be read, but a huge wall of text hits you…  and it feels like you got sacked by Suh.

The Enter key is your friend.  I got C+ or B- in most English classes. 

Trust me, I am the last person to ever tell someone how to write.  Just hit enter once in a while. Sorry needed to be said. 

Nuge

I think your point is valid and one that is now often disregarded.  Texas v Nebraska is a fun game to watch.  I don’t care what school you want to win. 

Some people will blame Texas and say the Refs were on there side.  Blah Blah Blah we know the story.

The fact most NU fans have a issue with… including me.

I watched the time run with the Huskers ahead in points.  Yet my team lost. 

I have never experienced that before.  In the twenty years I have watched Husker football that was the first time it ever happened.

It was a shock to the system to say the least.

Whatever TX virtues are, I’ll return to the distances involved:

Austin - State College: over 1500 miles

Austin - Columbus: over 1200 miles

Austin - Ann Arbor: over 1300 miles

Much of the Big 10 doesn’t travel all that well the way it is.

A bitch for fan support and conference travel…

Maybe this is a dumb question, but why is Bebe & the Big 12 waiting to be picked apart? Why dont they go on the offensive and try to get 4 additional teams (with big TV markets) to join the Big 12 and make it the first superconference?

Big 16 sounds good to me. No offense to the Big 10, but aside from Michigan, O State & Penn State, it dosnt really impress me.

There was a reason Cozgrove’s D was slow, he had a Big 10 mentality.

Tony,

I can certainly understand your (and the rest of the Nebraska fans) sense of shock.  If the shoe were on the other foot I would be feeling the same way.

I just hate how discussions on message boards always disintegrate into name calling and vitriol.  I don’t feel like I’m that old (38) but I wish that we could return to a time when sportsmanship and playing the game “right” was just as important as winning.

One of the coolest moments I had as a sports fan was when the home crowd at Nebraska gave Ricky Williams a standing ovation after a helluva performance in Lincoln.  That to me marks what fans should really be like.  Root for your team, scream like hell when the defense is on the field but appreciate that the young men on the field are (literally) sacrificing their bodies for the sport.

As far as bad fans go; I usually find that the worst fans didn’t actually attend the school that they are giving a bad name to.  Probably because they couldn’t get in (perhaps that is my Texas arrogance speaking ;)).

Anyway, it seems like it will be a wild ride the next few years and it will be interesting to see how everything plays out.

Nuge

SteerPower: you are a great illustration of why so many people hate the state of Texas and the residents therein (I was born/raised in Illinois and have lived in Georgia for 25 years)...

Final comments:

Since 1969 (giving you a break) how many National Championships has TX won in football:

That would be two (2, II).  If I used 1970 like I should have, it would be one (1, I).

Sounds like a “once in a while” program to me; one that can’t even fill it’s own stadium unless there is a chance at a national championship.  And these people are going to travel to Happy Valley?  Give me a break. 

By the way, Oklahoma has four (4, IV).  Wonder why they never even get a mention in all this?

Dear, Dear “jeff Smith” I (heart) you!

Just trying to give you guys in Oklahoma and Nebraska the bad news gently…The only reason to expand is so that there is MORE money for the conference to divide amongst the other conference members and to at least bring in as much as Oklahoma’s (Nebraska) own share from the conference till…a cent less is a drag on the conference. And, frankly, I don’t see Oklahoma (Nebraska)being able to generate $15 to $20 or more additional revenue for any conference…sorry, don’t kill the messenger.

And, Oklahoma has a long and storied traditional program, but the “most prestigious football program ever?” You are not even the Most prestigious football program in the South Division of the Big 12 let alone in all of football…

Not trying to be mean or anything, but this is a peep show of what someone like Texas has to offer other conferences:

**#2 all time in college victories

**49 National Championships in all sports

**At any one time has 3 or 4 or more teams ranked in the top 25 in non revenue sports

**102000 seat stadium that has sold out ffor the last umpteen years and no tickets available for the foreseable future.

**#49 Ranked USA University (#75 ranked in the world)

**$16,000,000,000 endowments

**$538,000,000 in research last year

**50,000 students on campus

**Athletic Revenue last year was $138,000,000

**Ranked by Forbes as the #1 most valued football program

**24,000,000 eyes in Texas and the overwhelming majority can’t wait for Saturday to watch “their” longhorns play

**Sits right in the middle of the most high school football talent in the US with about 400 high school football athletes signing Division I Committments every year a lot of which has gone to OU and OSU so they could have a competitive team over the last 100 years.

**7th Largest Library in the USA

Like I said, not trying to be mean but the above listing of merits is what all the conferences are looking for, and regrettably none of the Oklahoma schools come anywhere near having a pedigree like Texas or TAM for that matter.

Just trying to give you guys in Oklahoma the bad news gently…The only reason to expand is so that there is MORE money for the conference to divide amongst the other conference members and to at least bring in as much as Oklahoma’s own share from the conference till…a cent less is a drag on the conference.  And, frankly, I don’t see Oklahoma being able to generate $15 to $20 or more additional revenue for any conference…sorry, don’t kill the messenger.

And, Oklahoma(Nebraska) has a long and storied traditional program, but the “most prestigious football program ever?”  You are not even the Most prestigious football program in the South Division of the Big 12 let alone in all of football…

Not trying to be mean or anything, but this is a peep show of what someone like Texas has to offer other conferences:

**#2 all time in college victories

**49 National Championships in all sports

**At any one time has 3 or 4 or more teams ranked in the top 25 in non revenue sports

**102000 seat stadium that has sold out ffor the last umpteen years and no tickets available for the foreseable future.

**#49 Ranked USA University (#75 ranked in the world)

**$16,000,000,000 endowments

**$538,000,000 in research last year

**50,000 students on campus

**Athletic Revenue last year was $138,000,000

**Ranked by Forbes as the #1 most valued football program

**24,000,000 eyes in Texas and the overwhelming majority can’t wait for Saturday to watch “their” longhorns play

**Sits right in the middle of the most high school football talent in the US with about 400 high school football athletes signing Division I Committments every year a lot of which has gone to OU and OSU so they could have a competitive team over the last 100 years.

Like I said, not trying to be mean but the above listing of merits is what all the conferences are looking for, and regrettably none of the Oklahoma schools come anywhere near having a pedigree like Texas or TAM for that matter.

The above *Jeff Smith* is why I do not care what you think of me, the Longhorns, Texas, My Dog Pudge, My slutty Aunt Winny, My Girlfriend Missy, My Pet Snake….you are just “little people’ and beyond contempt and your opinion is of no use or of no value…Ciao Baby!  I still *heart* you Jeff Smith.

Huskers in the Big 12, Pac 10, 12,14,16 or SEC.  Grow some stones.  Big 10 is the homey girl.  She’ll dance with anyone.

If NU goes to the Big 10 would the recruiting in Texas dry up. I wonder about Texans and some Californians desire to playing the big 10 or whatever it might be called. 

After listening to all this chatter on here,I now know why the BIG 12 is locally referred to as Texas and the 11 orphans.  I’m think that all the other 11 schools are just the Longhorn’s *itches.

SteerPower = 5’ 8”, 145 lb, college student with horned-rimmed glasses, pocket protector, and shirt buttoned all the way to the neck.  Read…NERD!  A nerd who sits behind the computer spewing trash, because he is just a little weakling who can’t back it up in person. 

SteerPower, you wouldn’t last a day in Nebraska where we push little girls like you around.  Good luck in the Big 9, where OU still rules the roost in football…NOT ut!

it sounds like money is the main deal in all this big 10 expansion talk, to me there’s not alot of differances in the conferances. you have some big named teams in both, oklahoma texas Nebraska in the big12,osu,penn state, michigan in the big 10…

then some mid level teams like iowa/a&m,michigan state texas tech..ex…

I don’t really care either way, but if it makes NU more money, and helps inprove NU’s school..it’s kinda a no brainer to go to the big 10 if they want us.

texas has like 28 million people in their state and Nebraska 1.5 million.so Nebraska has been accustomed to doing more with less.

look at teams like ut and nd, who have had very highly ranked recruiting classes, yet have produced very little.compared to Nebraska who took a 25th rated recruiting class and turned them into a back to back NC’s.

also we must consider teams like missou, colorado and ut, have threatened to leave the conferance since it started.that creates a very unstable working enviroment. which hopefully a move to the big 10 would fix.

at this point it’s all speculation, really don’t know what the big 10 or Nebraska is thinking. texas has allways wanted 0u, and they got them, they wanted the big 12 office in dallas, and got it, no pq’s and got it, and now they want the big 12 champ game in their back yard.and they will probably get that too…so there’s a certain point I could see NU wanting to look at a more fair and balanced conferance.

and thats really how the game should be played, it makes it much more enjoyable and rewarding when it’s decided on the feild and not in some back office.

I don’t think playing texas in dallas is as bad as when they would allways have us play miami in their back yard. but it still is a preaty big disadvantage.

I suppose we will have to wait and see if the big 10 wants to deal with NU in a more equitable way than the big 12,we will have to read the fine print first then decide.

finnaly Im not a recruiting guru, but it seems to me, rozier came from NJ, suh from out west,crouch and rodgers from omaha,frazier from florida, ect..so I have allways seen NU as recruiting nation wide, and not just dependant of texas like oklahoma traditionally has been.

the only think I will not like about leaveing the big 12 is the traditional tracks to manhatten,lawrance,ames,boulder,columbia, ect that are familar and have alot of history behind them.

other than that I see no reason NU should be handcuffed to a conferance designed for ut’s glory..

Seriously, SteerPower.  You think Texas has the football heritage and tradition that Nebraska has?  I just checked wikipedia.  NU claims 5 MNCs, and Texas claims 4.  Texas even has the gall to claim 1970, when NU went 11-0-1, and Texas went 11-1.  Anyone who claims a national title, with a loss, when there are undefeated teams out there, is saying “OK” to losing.  This is tolerating mediocrity.

I realize that because of Texas’ population, and recruiting ability, they will field nominally more talented teams each year.  So be it.

So that means it’s AOK to eek out 1 point victories against better coached squads?  Seriously.  You think Mack Brown is a better coach than Bo Pelini?  Seriously?  Seriously?

Texas may indeed the prettiest girl at the dance, but Texas also acts that way: like a girl.

Texas insisted on doing things their way.  Specifically, Texas imposed academic standards on other schools so other schools can’t take partial qualifiers, which they did simply to make their team better than Nebraska, for wins on the field.

I predict NU goes to the Big 10.  More money there.  I also predict that Texas will have their share of on-the-field success.  Screw them anyways.

SteerPower:

Chris Sims.  Major Applewhite.  Discuss.

HA HA HA HA HA.  We win.

It’s wonderful watching the “denial phase” from Husker fans when an outsider points out that they have warts and are just plain, homely, country gals with nothing special to recommend them…

Pretending that everyone really, really wants you is an old, old mind game to convince yourself that you are indeed worthy.

If I want to learn to shuck corn, castrate sheep or even how to plow corn, I’d go to Nebraska…but, If I wanted to go to that shining castle in the sky, I’d catch the first bus out and look at NU in the rear view mirror.

NU has a decent year in football, and you’d think it was the second coming of Christ…for Jesus sake it was only one season and one sport and you think the world wants to beat a path to your shanty?  Got news for ya…nobody cares!  Nobody cares!  NU is not were things happen..NU is were you go if the USC’s the Michigan’s the Ohio States, the Texas’ don’t want you. Can you say, “small potatoes, irrevelvant”?

SteerPower,

“Got news for ya…nobody cares!”

Among fans, nobody else has to care. Just enough top level recruits have to care, which obviously do. Many more, at the moment, are interested.

Nebraska has “sustainability,” unlike the school you’re too ashamed of, to mention. Too close to home, obviously. To mention “your” team, would crowd you out of your “happy place.” Hollow and dark, as it is.

Nebraska fans have something you’ll never (ever) have.

Nebraska football has a “force multiplier”- it’s fans.

It’s fans bring the bounce, bring da funk.

(Genial as they are.) They DEMAND that the team be good AND do it the right way. Unlike another conference school, who’s finally almost done with probation- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Collegiate_Athletic_Association#Division_I-A_institutions_on_probation

Nebraska fans are absolutely not quite satisfied, with where the team finished, last year.

What Nebraska fans like though, is the process. The building of the team, the entire infrastructure.

Which, makes a Nebraska blog the most compelling, you’ll ever read.

You’ve fallen into “our” trap.

You got owned!

Free rent, in “SteerPowers” mind!

How quickly Texans forget the past. Like the total irrelevance their program once had. How Arkansas left the SWC and killed it because NOBODY cares about Texas.

You were saved by the formation of the Big 12.

The only thing wrong with Texas are Texans.

I hope the Big 12 lasts long enough for NU to even the score a little bit.

Sports are cyclical and NU is headed in the right direction and Texas, well not so much.

If you join the SEC, well, good luck. If you join the Big 10, well, once again good luck.

The only conference you are relevant in is the B12. You won’t be able to recruit if you’re in the B10 and you’ll have twice as many OUs to beat in the SEC.

Either way, your fans are fickle. You boast of a few years of sell outs. Well, come back when you break 300. I could care less that your stadium holds 100000. Your state has about 10 times the number of people of the rest of the B12 states. You should be selling out a stadium that holds a million to be compared evenly.

A five year sellout? Wow, what a joke.

Nuge,

Hey thanks for what you said.  Often forums like this get hijacked by some person.  In this case Steerpower. 

Whatever I don’t really consider what he says to much his says he is only trying to provoke people.  Which is odd since he claims no school.

I have a lot of respect for Texas, I just never want them to beat Nebraska.  Ever. 

Then again, I would be called a fake Nebraska fan since I never graduated from NU. 

Yeah I went to ISU.  Hey I love the fact Paul Rhodes is doing good things at ISU.  Paul Rhodes might be the best ISU has had since Dan McCarney. 

Anyway good luck on the season.  Looking forward to hopefully giving Texas Longhorns a beat down in Lincoln.

Post anytime you want, we welcome people who understand its just a bunch of kids playing college football.

I hear a lot of talk about Acedemics… this conference better than this conference…

It’s all a bunch of semantics from US News and Wold Report that is worthless.

One study conducted a survey based on those ranking methods.  They asked which law schools were the best, putting Princeton in the mix.  Princeton ranked near the top… They DON’T HAVE a LAW SCHOOL!  Proving these surveys are junk.

For the most part all the schools are State Schools, you could teleport and interchange the professors from each and nobody would know the difference.

Texas does not have the choice to join whatever conference they want. Their academics are way to low for the Big 10.